John Coffman
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<tt>Max,<br>
<br>
On dual row connectors like J2, the numbering is easy: pin 1 is
the square pad. pin 2 is clockwise (from the top). Then all the
odd numbered pins are on one (long) side, and all the even number
pins are on the opposite side: viz.,<br>
<br>
<br>
2 4 6<br>
1 3 5 etc.<br>
<br>
J1 is a stumper, because it is 2x2. However, the same rule
applies. Look at J2 above, and chop off pins 5 & 6. So J1 is
numbered, as you asked, CLOCKWISE. *** meaning you get from pin 1
to pin 2 by proceeding CW.<br>
<br>
2 4<br>
1 3<br>
<br>
--John<br>
<br>
</tt><br>
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On 12/15/2014 11:11 PM, Max Scane wrote:
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<div dir="ltr">Hi John,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I'm just jumpering up my 68K board and I am wondering about
the orientation of J1 and J2. Pin 1 is the bottom right but
how do they number from there? Do they go anticlockwise 1 up
2 left 3 down 4 etc or something else?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Cheers!</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Max</div>
</div>
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> <tt>Rich,<br>
<br>
I assume you are booting CP/M-68 with the "C" option.<br>
<br>
Does the "D" option work? [list FAT16 Directory]<br>
<br>
When you get the boot message, the directory of the
FAT16 partition, type 0x06, on the CF card (device 44 on
the MF/PIC board) should be listed. This allows you to
boot any m68K .coff file (A.OUT) or binary (*.BIN) file
in the FAT16 partition.<br>
<br>
The cross compiler I have used is the Ashware GCC 2.95
compiler. CP/M-68 is compiled with the Ashware suite
of cross-tools.<br>
<br>
The FAT16 partition is first; and the CP/M 0x52
partition is second; I think I have an extended
partition on this CF card, also, third partition table
entry.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
<br>
--John<br>
<br>
<br>
</font></span></tt>
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<div>
<div>
<div>Thanks Max. Yes, I have heard about the
sector alignment…thanks for reminding me.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Any idea about reading the FAT16 partition?
If I can get that working, then file transfer
will be a snap.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div>Rich</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>--</div>
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Re: [N8VEM: 19102] Mini-68K CF Update<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Rich,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>That's great news!</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Despite supporting Logical Block
Addressing, I think a number of disk
partitioners like to align partitions on
track/sector boundaries.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I think that is why you have some spare
space.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Cheers!</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Max</div>
</div>
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<div>All —</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span style="white-space:
pre-wrap;"> </span>Today I
received two brand-new SanDisk 64MB
CF cards to try with the Mini68K. I
took one of them, used the same
partition tool, and re-sized it to
32mb (FAT16 type 0x06, primary)/24mb
(unformatted type 0x52, primary,
active). For some reason when you do
this, there’s 8mb of unallocated
space and no seeming way to recover
it at least with this tool. Maybe
using a *nix alternative would work
better.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span style="white-space:
pre-wrap;"> </span>I popped it
into the PPIDE and selected drive C,
ran init and it worked! PIPped a few
files, no problem.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span style="white-space:
pre-wrap;"> </span>Now, I still
can’t read the FAT partition from
CP/M. I put a 5k text file in the
FAT partition but CP/M doesn’t see
it. Looks like I made some progress,
though.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div>Rich</div>
<div><br>
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<tt>Max,<br>
<br>
On dual row connectors like J2, the numbering is easy: pin 1 is
the square pad. pin 2 is clockwise (from the top). Then all the
odd numbered pins are on one (long) side, and all the even number
pins are on the opposite side: viz.,<br>
<br>
<br>
2 4 6<br>
1 3 5 etc.<br>
<br>
J1 is a stumper, because it is 2x2. However, the same rule
applies. Look at J2 above, and chop off pins 5 & 6. So J1 is
numbered, as you asked, CLOCKWISE. *** meaning you get from pin 1
to pin 2 by proceeding CW.<br>
<br>
2 4<br>
1 3<br>
<br>
--John<br>
<br>
</tt><br>
<br>
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cite="mid:CADv-vyYNrq8Z4-***@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">Hi John,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I'm just jumpering up my 68K board and I am wondering about
the orientation of J1 and J2. Pin 1 is the bottom right but
how do they number from there? Do they go anticlockwise 1 up
2 left 3 down 4 etc or something else?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Cheers!</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Max</div>
</div>
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> <tt>Rich,<br>
<br>
I assume you are booting CP/M-68 with the "C" option.<br>
<br>
Does the "D" option work? [list FAT16 Directory]<br>
<br>
When you get the boot message, the directory of the
FAT16 partition, type 0x06, on the CF card (device 44 on
the MF/PIC board) should be listed. This allows you to
boot any m68K .coff file (A.OUT) or binary (*.BIN) file
in the FAT16 partition.<br>
<br>
The cross compiler I have used is the Ashware GCC 2.95
compiler. CP/M-68 is compiled with the Ashware suite
of cross-tools.<br>
<br>
The FAT16 partition is first; and the CP/M 0x52
partition is second; I think I have an extended
partition on this CF card, also, third partition table
entry.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
<br>
--John<br>
<br>
<br>
</font></span></tt>
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On 12/15/2014 05:50 PM, Richard Cini wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>
<div>
<div>Thanks Max. Yes, I have heard about the
sector alignment…thanks for reminding me.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Any idea about reading the FAT16 partition?
If I can get that working, then file transfer
will be a snap.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div>Rich</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>--</div>
<div>Rich Cini</div>
<div>Collector of Classic Computers</div>
<div>Build Master and lead engineer, Altair32
Emulator</div>
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Re: [N8VEM: 19102] Mini-68K CF Update<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Rich,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>That's great news!</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Despite supporting Logical Block
Addressing, I think a number of disk
partitioners like to align partitions on
track/sector boundaries.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I think that is why you have some spare
space.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Cheers!</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Max</div>
</div>
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<div>
<div>
<div>All —</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span style="white-space:
pre-wrap;"> </span>Today I
received two brand-new SanDisk 64MB
CF cards to try with the Mini68K. I
took one of them, used the same
partition tool, and re-sized it to
32mb (FAT16 type 0x06, primary)/24mb
(unformatted type 0x52, primary,
active). For some reason when you do
this, there’s 8mb of unallocated
space and no seeming way to recover
it at least with this tool. Maybe
using a *nix alternative would work
better.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span style="white-space:
pre-wrap;"> </span>I popped it
into the PPIDE and selected drive C,
ran init and it worked! PIPped a few
files, no problem.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span style="white-space:
pre-wrap;"> </span>Now, I still
can’t read the FAT partition from
CP/M. I put a 5k text file in the
FAT partition but CP/M doesn’t see
it. Looks like I made some progress,
though.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div>Rich</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>--</div>
<div>Rich Cini</div>
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