[N8VEM: 18664] Full screen editor needed for CP/M 2.2

[Kip Koon]

Hi James!

I'm trying to remember what the name of the full screen editor you mentioned
in a recent email, I can't seem to find the email. Would you please let me
know what the name of the editor is? Thanks.



Kip Koon

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[Alan Cox]

Vde is pretty decent

Post by Kip Koon
Hi James!
I’m trying to remember what the name of the full screen editor you
mentioned in a recent email, I can’t seem to find the email. Would you
please let me know what the name of the editor is? Thanks.
Kip Koon
http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Kip_Koon
http://computerpcdoc.com/
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[Tom Lafleur]

one can also run wordstar for cp/m

Post by Alan Cox
Vde is pretty decent

Post by Kip Koon
Hi James!
I’m trying to remember what the name of the full screen editor you
mentioned in a recent email, I can’t seem to find the email. Would you
please let me know what the name of the editor is? Thanks.
Kip Koon
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http://computerpcdoc.com/
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Tom Lafleur

[James Moxham]

Good point Tom,

Re "full screen editor", I think Wordstar native is 80x25 and with half
the lines taken up for the menu it isn't really full screen. But it can be
changed easily to 80x40 (there is a utility program to do this), and then
if you know the menu commands you can shrink the menu down and then it
would be full screen.

Cheers, James

Post by Tom Lafleur
one can also run wordstar for cp/m

Post by Alan Cox
Vde is pretty decent

Post by Kip Koon
Hi James!
I’m trying to remember what the name of the full screen editor you
mentioned in a recent email, I can’t seem to find the email. Would
you please let >>>me know what the name of the editor is? Thanks.

[Kip Koon]

Hi James and CP/M Enthusiasts!

I have Wordstar running with an ANSI display, but the arrow keys are not working. In fact, no arrow keys are working anywhere. Would Mince, microEmacs, or VDE have arrow keys that work, or is that a function of the VGA Display VHDL code in the Multicomp?



Kip Koon

computerdoc-***@public.gmane.org

http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Kip_Koon

http://computerpcdoc.com/



From: n8vem-/***@public.gmane.org [mailto:n8vem-/***@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of James Moxham
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 8:28 PM
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Subject: Re: [N8VEM: 18679] Full screen editor needed for CP/M 2.2



Good point Tom,



Re "full screen editor", I think Wordstar native is 80x25 and with half the lines taken up for the menu it isn't really full screen. But it can be changed easily to 80x40 (there is a utility program to do this), and then if you know the menu commands you can shrink the menu down and then it would be full screen.



Cheers, James







On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 09:44:36 +0930, Tom Lafleur <lafleur-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:



one can also run wordstar for cp/m



On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Alan Cox <etchedpixels-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

Vde is pretty decent

On 11 Sep 2014 23:36, "Kip Koon" <computerdoc-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

Hi James!

I’m trying to remember what the name of the full screen editor you mentioned in a recent email, I can’t seem to find the email. Would you please let me know what the name of the editor is? Thanks.
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[Wayne Warthen]

ZDE (included in RomWBW distribution ROM disk) is configured for ANSI and
the arrow keys work. I personally like ZDE because it is very compact and
maximizes use of screen space for editting. Commands seem to be generally
WordStar compatible.

--Wayne

Post by Kip Koon
Hi James and CP/M Enthusiasts!
I have Wordstar running with an ANSI display, but the arrow keys are not
working. In fact, no arrow keys are working anywhere. Would Mince,
microEmacs, or VDE have arrow keys that work, or is that a function of the
VGA Display VHDL code in the Multicomp?
Kip Koon
http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Kip_Koon
http://computerpcdoc.com/
*Sent:* Sunday, September 14, 2014 8:28 PM
*Subject:* Re: [N8VEM: 18679] Full screen editor needed for CP/M 2.2
Good point Tom,
Re "full screen editor", I think Wordstar native is 80x25 and with half
the lines taken up for the menu it isn't really full screen. But it can be
changed easily to 80x40 (there is a utility program to do this), and then
if you know the menu commands you can shrink the menu down and then it
would be full screen.
Cheers, James
one can also run wordstar for cp/m
Vde is pretty decent
Hi James!
I’m trying to remember what the name of the full screen editor you
mentioned in a recent email, I can’t seem to find the email. Would you
please let me know what the name of the editor is? Thanks.
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[Frank Vanderydt]

I'm just thinking, but if you would use propio als terminal couldn't the

[Kip Koon]

I’m experimenting with CP/M 2.2 on the Multicomp Microcomputer by Grant Searle. The whole thing fits in the palm of my hand! I love this stuff!



Kip Koon

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I'm just thinking, but if you would use propio als terminal couldn't the propeller capture the arrow keys and make proper movements ?
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[James Moxham]

Hi Kip,

This is Old-Skool technology - from before keyboards had arrow keys :)
The wordstar commands to move the cursor are on the menu when you are in a
text document, ^E for up, ^X for down, ^S for left and ^R for right. These
form a group on the keyboard.

Now you have something working, this could be a fun project you could try
if you wanted - take the keyboard commands in VHDL that detect the arrow
keys, and remap them so they produce the control keys for Wordstar.

Cheers, James

Post by Kip Koon
Hi James and CP/M Enthusiasts!
I have Wordstar running with an ANSI display, but the arrow keys are not
working. In fact, no arrow keys are working >anywhere. Would Mince,
microEmacs, or VDE have arrow keys that work, or is that a function of
the VGA Display VHDL >code in the Multicomp?
Kip Koon
http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Kip_Koon
http://computerpcdoc.com/
Of James Moxham
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [N8VEM: 18679] Full screen editor needed for CP/M 2.2

[James Moxham]

D'oh, not ^R for right, it is ^D. How could I forget my Wordstar
shortcuts?!

and you could remap some other keys as well - Page Up could be ^R, page
down ^C and the insert key to ^V. If you got really clever you could map
the End key to ^QD and Home to ^QS.
While we are talking keyboard remapping, @ and " are swapped on the UK vs
US keyboard and Max has already fixed that, as well as a couple of other
symbols.
Cheers, James

On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 09:25:15 +0930, James Moxham

Post by James Moxham
Hi Kip,
This is Old-Skool technology - from before keyboards had arrow keys :)
The wordstar commands to move the cursor are >on the menu when you are
in a text document, ^E for up, ^X for down, ^S for left and ^R for
right. These form a group on >the keyboard.

Post by James Moxham
Now you have something working, this could be a fun project you could
try if you wanted - take the keyboard commands >in VHDL that detect the
arrow keys, and remap them so they produce the control keys for
Wordstar.
Cheers, James
Hi James and CP/M Enthusiasts!
I have Wordstar running with an ANSI display, but the arrow keys are
not working. In fact, no arrow keys are working >>anywhere. Would
Mince, microEmacs, or VDE have arrow keys that work, or is that a
function of the VGA Display VHDL >>code in the Multicomp?
Kip Koon
http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Kip_Koon
http://computerpcdoc.com/

[Kip Koon]

Hi James!

Oh yeah, you're right! I forgot about that. I have been using mice for so
long I totally forgot about the keyboard controls for direction! Duh! :)
That's funny!

About the Keyboard remapping. That sounds like an interesting project! How
do I figure all that out? Is the VGA VHDL fairly straight forward to
understand or do I need to find a table equating Keys to 8-bit codes. I
took a look at that list of codes when there was talk about the @ and " keys
swapped. It did not make any sense to me either. How did Max finally
figure it all out? Thanks for the suggestion. It should be a very
interesting project indeed! I'll let you know how I fair with it.



Kip Koon

computerdoc-***@public.gmane.org

http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Kip_Koon

http://computerpcdoc.com/



From: n8vem-/***@public.gmane.org [mailto:n8vem-/***@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of
James Moxham
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 8:02 PM
To: n8vem-/***@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [N8VEM: 18689] Full screen editor needed for CP/M 2.2



D'oh, not ^R for right, it is ^D. How could I forget my Wordstar shortcuts?!



and you could remap some other keys as well - Page Up could be ^R, page down
^C and the insert key to ^V. If you got really clever you could map the End
key to ^QD and Home to ^QS.

While we are talking keyboard remapping, @ and " are swapped on the UK vs US
keyboard and Max has already fixed that, as well as a couple of other
symbols.

Cheers, James



On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 09:25:15 +0930, James Moxham <moxhamj-CkBdp7X+***@public.gmane.org>
wrote:



Hi Kip,



This is Old-Skool technology - from before keyboards had arrow keys :) The
wordstar commands to move the cursor are on the menu when you are in a text
document, ^E for up, ^X for down, ^S for left and ^R for right. These form a
group on the keyboard.



Now you have something working, this could be a fun project you could try if
you wanted - take the keyboard commands in VHDL that detect the arrow keys,
and remap them so they produce the control keys for Wordstar.



Cheers, James



On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 00:35:52 +0930, Kip Koon <computerdoc-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:



Hi James and CP/M Enthusiasts!

I have Wordstar running with an ANSI display, but the arrow keys are not
working. In fact, no arrow keys are working anywhere. Would Mince,
microEmacs, or VDE have arrow keys that work, or is that a function of the
VGA Display VHDL code in the Multicomp?



Kip Koon

computerdoc-***@public.gmane.org

http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Kip_Koon

http://computerpcdoc.com/
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[Kip Koon]

Hi Grant!

I just took a look at the SBCTextDisplayRGB.VHD VHDL code which is quite
interesting. I'm beginning to understand how you implemented all the
control, ESC codes, etc. Do you have a table of all the keys on the PS/2
Keyboard and what their 8-bit codes are? I would like to add some custom
arrow keys controls for use with Wordstar in CP/M. How are the unshifted
keyboard code tables organized? Thank you in advance.



Kip Koon

computerdoc-***@public.gmane.org

http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Kip_Koon

http://computerpcdoc.com/



From: n8vem-/***@public.gmane.org [mailto:n8vem-/***@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of
Kip Koon
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:23 AM
To: n8vem-/***@public.gmane.org
Subject: RE: [N8VEM: 18692] Full screen editor needed for CP/M 2.2



Hi James!

Oh yeah, you're right! I forgot about that. I have been using mice for so
long I totally forgot about the keyboard controls for direction! Duh! :)
That's funny!

About the Keyboard remapping. That sounds like an interesting project! How
do I figure all that out? Is the VGA VHDL fairly straight forward to
understand or do I need to find a table equating Keys to 8-bit codes. I
took a look at that list of codes when there was talk about the @ and " keys
swapped. It did not make any sense to me either. How did Max finally
figure it all out? Thanks for the suggestion. It should be a very
interesting project indeed! I'll let you know how I fair with it.



Kip Koon

computerdoc-***@public.gmane.org

http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Kip_Koon

http://computerpcdoc.com/



From: n8vem-/***@public.gmane.org [mailto:n8vem-/***@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of
James Moxham
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 8:02 PM
To: n8vem-/***@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [N8VEM: 18689] Full screen editor needed for CP/M 2.2



D'oh, not ^R for right, it is ^D. How could I forget my Wordstar shortcuts?!



and you could remap some other keys as well - Page Up could be ^R, page down
^C and the insert key to ^V. If you got really clever you could map the End
key to ^QD and Home to ^QS.

While we are talking keyboard remapping, @ and " are swapped on the UK vs US
keyboard and Max has already fixed that, as well as a couple of other
symbols.

Cheers, James



On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 09:25:15 +0930, James Moxham <moxhamj-CkBdp7X+***@public.gmane.org>
wrote:



Hi Kip,



This is Old-Skool technology - from before keyboards had arrow keys :) The
wordstar commands to move the cursor are on the menu when you are in a text
document, ^E for up, ^X for down, ^S for left and ^R for right. These form a
group on the keyboard.



Now you have something working, this could be a fun project you could try if
you wanted - take the keyboard commands in VHDL that detect the arrow keys,
and remap them so they produce the control keys for Wordstar.



Cheers, James



On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 00:35:52 +0930, Kip Koon <computerdoc-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:



Hi James and CP/M Enthusiasts!

I have Wordstar running with an ANSI display, but the arrow keys are not
working. In fact, no arrow keys are working anywhere. Would Mince,
microEmacs, or VDE have arrow keys that work, or is that a function of the
VGA Display VHDL code in the Multicomp?



Kip Koon

computerdoc-***@public.gmane.org

http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Kip_Koon

http://computerpcdoc.com/
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[Edward Snider]

I'm running Wordstar 4.0 on the SBCv2 to write assembly, you can configure
it up to 99 lines if I recall correctly.
I wish it would do more like 150 lines, as that's what my terminal
sw/screen combo can do with clearly displayed text.

Ed

On Sunday, September 14, 2014 7:28:44 PM UTC-5, James Moxham (Dr_Acula)

Post by James Moxham
Good point Tom,
Re "full screen editor", I think Wordstar native is 80x25 and with half
the lines taken up for the menu it isn't really full screen. But it can be
changed easily to 80x40 (there is a utility program to do this), and then
if you know the menu commands you can shrink the menu down and then it
would be full screen.
Cheers, James
one can also run wordstar for cp/m

Post by Alan Cox
Vde is pretty decent

Post by Kip Koon
Hi James!
I’m trying to remember what the name of the full screen editor you
mentioned in a recent email, I can’t seem to find the email. Would you
please let me know what the name of the editor is? Thanks.